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Clash of Clans – Town Hall 8.5 Guide – What to build and what not to build [Updated March 15, 2016]

Town Hall Level 9

Town Hall Level 9

Introduction to Town Hall 8.5

Town Hall 8.5 is a level 9 Town Hall with level 9 offence and Town Hall level 8 defensive buildings.

Town Hall 8.5 is used to make easier matches for Clan wars.

 

 

What to build

You can upgrade all the buildings that you have from Town Hall 8. Adding Archer Queen, new traps and additional walls are fine. All my walls are currently on level 8. (It seems like it’s safe to upgrade walls to level 9. See updates below)

My current setup: (Last updated 10/11/2015)

Walls Level 8

Walls Level 8

Spell Factory Level 4

Spell Factory Level 4

Dark Spell Factory Level 3

Dark Spell Factory Level 3

Air Defense Level 7

Air Defense Level 7

Clan Castle Level 5

Clan Castle Level 5

Canon Level 11

Canon Level 11

Air Sweeper Level 5

Air Sweeper Level 5

Hidden Tesla Level 7

Hidden Tesla Level 7

Wizard Tower Level 7

Wizard Tower Level 7

Mortar Level 7

Mortar Level 7

Army Camp Level 7

Army Camp Level 7

Dark Barracks Level 5

Dark Barracks Level 5

Bomb Level 5

Bomb Level 5

Barracks Level 10

Barracks Level 10

Air Bomb Level 4

Air Bomb Level 4

Seeking Air Mine Level 2

Seeking Air Mine Level 2

Giant Bomb Level 3

Giant Bomb Level 3

Skeleton Trap Level 3

Skeleton Trap Level 3

What NOT to build

You should not build any new buildings especially x-bow.

Laboratory progress [UPDATES 05-12-2015]

Barbarian – Level 5

Giant – Level 6

Wall breaker – Level 5

Wizards – Level 5

Dragon – Level 3

Archer – Level 6

Goblin – Level 4

Balloons – Level 3

Healers – Level 3

P.E.K.K.A. – Level 3

Lighting Spell – Level 5

Healing Spell – Level 6

Rage Spell – Level 5

Jump Spell – Level 2

Poison Spell – Level 2

Earthquake Spell – Level 3

Haste Spell – Level 2

Minion – Level 2

Hog Rider – Level 4

Valkyrie – Level 2

Golem – Level 4

Witch – Level 2

There are some posts saying do not upgrade dragon or golem to Level 4. Well, I am half way upgrading my Golem to Level 4. I will let you know if this breaks the TH8.5 strategy. Fingers cross.

UPDATES 05-12-2015 : Golem has finally upgraded to Level 4 and still it hasn’t break TH8.5 strategy. I am now upgrading my dragon to level 4. (14 days to go). And I will upgrade a few walls to level 9. Let see if that make any differences in next war. Stay tune!

UPDATES 11-12-2015: I have 52x Level 9 walls and still hasn’t break TH8.5 strategy.

CoC_Walls_Lvl_9

UPDATES 11-12-2015: Forced to build x-bows 🙁

Due to the latest updates on Clash of Clans, shield is harder to get, you can’t leave your TH outside your walls 🙁 I have decided to build 2 x-bows to defend my base. This will definitely break the TH8.5 strategy. Oh well it has been fun, this means my clan members need to step up and attack better in Clan Wars 🙂

UPDATES 15-03-2016 New changes to Clan Wars Matchmaking

The changes coming to Clan Wars matchmaking are as follows:

  1. War sizes 35v35 and 45v45 are being removed in order to boost available matches in other war sizes;
  2. Clan Wars matchmaking will place a much greater emphasis on defensive (village) progress, and less emphasis on offensive (army) progress;
  3. Powerful, late-game defenses and troops like Inferno Towers, Eagle Artillery and Grand Warden will have much greater matchmaking impact;
  4. Clan Wars matchmaking will favor matches between Clans with similar recent win/loss records in their recent wars;
  5. Team-versus-team compositional checks have been added to help weed out imbalanced war matchups.

Defenses and War Base Optimization. End of TH .5 bases?

Defensive progress will be playing a much bigger role in Clan Wars matchmaking after the update. Previously, the system placed equal weight between offensive (army) and defensive (village) progress, allowing for confusing war matchups between players with relatively over-strong or over-weak defenses. Now, war matchmaking will factor defensive progress much more heavily into every calculation to help to keep War Bases better balanced “in lane.” After all, when Battle Day comes, all that really matters to YOUR team is how strong the opposing defenses are.

At the same time, matchmaking calculations have been rebalanced with the goal of better representing village progress. Previously, a village could be carefully manicured to hide a powerful defense or troop from matchmaking. For example, a player could intentionally not build X-Bows and under-upgrade other defenses to hide an Inferno Tower from matchmaking, and be treated as a TH9-level defense. Now, Clan Wars matchmaking will make a much sharper distinction between players who have built high-level items and those who haven’t. Not only will this prevent higher-level players from preying upon lower-level players with hyper-optimized War Bases, but it will also allow high-level players to upgrade lesser units, like Cannons or Minions, without worry of undue penalty by the matchmaking system.

Sounds like we shouldn’t upgrade anything and focus on just offence?

BTW this is official and confirmed by Supercell, by looking at gold mines and adding up all the resources available can tell you how much you weight? It’s FALSE.

CoC_th85_x_bows

Building 2x x-bows

My current Town Hall 8.5 layout

CoC TH8.5 progress

This is a valid TH8.5 base exclude 2 x-bows

Check out my war base defense for Town Hall 8.5

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  • Oscar

    At the time no it didnt break the strategy. I think now it doesn’t really matter with the new updates.

  • Irvan Wijaya

    Is that make the strategy broke?

  • Oscar

    Yes you can upgrade the barracks. Updating dark barrack was probably my last things to do

  • Irvan Wijaya

    Can i upgrade barrack to lv 11? If cant why u can upgrade dark barrack, its same unlock new troops

  • Irvan Wijaya

    Can i upgrade barrack to lv 11? If cant why u can upgrade dark barrack, its same unlock new troops

  • Oscar

    I would upgrade your spells and extra camp base before troops.

  • Irvan Wijaya

    Can i upgrade all of the troops?

  • Oscar

    if you have upgraded all your offense, you should build another AD.

  • ThorZeus

    you’re correct bro, i am currently upgrade my 3 ad to lvl 7 , and after that my existing defense allready on th 9 level, should i buy the new ad then? and after that what defense should i do? or should i upgrade my lvl 8 wall?

  • Oscar

    Are you getting attacked by dragons in Clan Wars? Maybe strengthen your air defense first.

  • ThorZeus

    hi bro currently i’m already finished upgrade my existing th 8 defense to th 9 defense level, and max all the trap, and added new 25 wall to th 8 level, what defense should i build first? to dump my gold

  • vijayabaskarank

    Thanks bro

  • Oscar

    Also check out this site http://clashofclansbuilder.com/ Might give you more ideas for TH8.5 war base.

  • vijayabaskarank

    Sure. Bro I was not clear why the trap placements since it is not available. Can you share me any screenshots with trap’s

  • Oscar

    Sorry mate, I am in TH9 now. You can check out some of my YouTube clips (the war bases are in TH8.5). Hope that will give you some ideas https://www.youtube.com/user/ooosz/videos

  • vijayabaskarank

    Hi bro can you share your thoughts 8.5 war base

  • Oscar

    Hold off building new buildings. Upgrade the current buildings first.

  • ShadowDrive

    yo , great guide man!
    i have a question. i added 1 tesla is that okay?and i’m planning to upgrade it to level 6. and have all of my 4 tesla’s to level 6

  • vijayabaskarank

    Thanks bro. Sure started splash defense first mortar, wizard tower and Tesla under progress. Updated clan castle and one army camp second in progress, spell and lab also upgraded started barbarian research bro. Doing lvl4 queen update

  • Oscar

    You can upgrade any defensive buildings any way you like but I prefer to upgrade splash damage buildings first. E.g. Mortars or wizard towers. Most importantly you should be concentrating on your offence first so that you can win Clan Wars 🙂

  • vijayabaskarank

    Thanks a lot for the help. It clarifies my doubts bro. Is there any specific order i can follow for upgrading the town hall 8 defenses in TH 8.5

  • Oscar

    1) Yes, definitely okay to buy new 25 walls and it’s safe to upgrade the new walls to level 8.

    2) I didn’t upgrade my Dark Barracks. I would stay away from upgrading Dark Barrack till last. It’s safe to upgrade Dragon, Golem and Witches from the laboratory.

    3) As you can see later I upgraded 52 walls to level 9 and that didn’t break TH8.5 strategy. I am not sure what would happen if you upgrade more thought…

    Good luck!

  • vijayabaskarank

    Nice post bro. I need the following information. I am a new town hall 9 user want to follow th8.5 strategy . My questions are
    1) Can i buy the new 25 walls
    2) Can i upgrade my dark baracks to release the new troops. Some body says releasing new troops will violate TH 8.5 strategy
    3)Can i upgrade my existing walls to lvl9